Schizoid Quotes

Discussion in 'Schizoid life' started by Fortunecookie, Mar 4, 2015.

  1. Fortunecookie

    Fortunecookie Best member

    Share some quotes on SPd or quotes from Schizoids.

    My personal favorite from Nancy McWilliams is:


    ‘’ The psychoanalytic use of the term schizoid derives from the observations of “schisms” between the internal life and the externally observable life of the schizoid individual (cf. Laing, 1965). For example, schizoid people are overtly detached, yet they describe in therapy a deep longing for closeness and compelling fantasies of intimate involvement. They appear selfsufficient, and yet anyone who gets to know them well can attest to the depth of their emotional need. They can be absent-minded at the same time that they are acutely vigilant. They may seem completely nonreactive, yet suffer an exquisite level of sensitivity. They may look affectively blunted while internally coping with what one of my schizoid friends calls “protoaffect,” the experience of being frighteningly overpowered by intense emotion. They may 9 9 seem utterly indifferent to sex while nourishing a sexually preoccupied, polymorphously elaborated fantasy life. They may strike others as unusually gentle souls, but an intimate may learn that they nourish elaborate fantasies of world destruction. ‘’
     
  2. belfort

    belfort Well-Known Member

    ^^same here, i have read some of these quotes from experts and it doesnt describe me at all.."elaborate fantasies of world destruction" ??wtf lol

    deep down inside i dont think i have a deep longing for anything..if i had such a deep longing for something id be more motivated in that area but im not..
     
  3. Aichouch

    Aichouch Well-Known Member

    ' this shut up self, being isolated, is unable to be enriched by outer experience, and so the whole inner world comes to be more and more impoverished, until the individual may come to feel he is merely a vacuum. The sense of being able to do anything and the feeling of possessing everything then exist side by side with a feeling of impotence and emptiness. The individual who may at one time have felt predominantly 'outside' the life going on there, which he affects to despise as petty and commonplace compared to the richness he has here inside himself, now longs to get inside life again, and get life inside himself, so dreadful is his inner deadness'
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    The Divided Self - R D Laing
     
  4. Pensive

    Pensive 'member?

    "I can’t apprehend the multitudes of people who happily label themselves as schizoid. Why the hell would you consciously want to be someone who’s more comfortable alone? Because you can’t muster enough courage to deal with the world? Because you have some Ayn Rand-like desire for a title that explains away your failures to form deep relationships with people as a positive? Because you have this wrongheaded belief that you’re above all else since “they just can’t fathom you?” Being schizoid leaves you with the ever-present thought of there being nothing for you here. Why would you want to feel that?" arsène hodali

    http://www.danceproof.com/what-like-having-schizoid-personality-disorder/
     
  5. belfort

    belfort Well-Known Member

    i can identify with this quote more even though half of it doesnt make much sense to me..
     
  6. iaine_mac

    iaine_mac New Member

    This quote is offensive...

    Not a criticism of the member who posted it, but the original source of the quote. This is the kind of crap my mother says all the time. "Oh, you just WANT to be diagnosed with SPD!" And its so frustrating dealing with someone like her, since shes extremely emotionally needy and doesnt understand people who arent. And no parent wants to admit that they raised a kid that has no emotional attachment to them, so she falls back on this kind of mentality. I love how this person thinks this is something we want. I understand, since one of the factors of our condition is that we dont mind being this way (some of us). Being AWARE of my condition doesnt automatically translate into my thinking Im better than people or that this is a great way to live. It isnt something that we actively want. It just is the way it is.
     
  7. Section_Eight

    Section_Eight Well-Known Member

    I agree with you totally. I wonder if arsène hodali is actually expressing his/her frustration that there is a growing trend of people labelling themselves schizoid, when they don't actually suffer from the disorder. For those of us diagnosed with SPD it isn't a choice, its a matter of how our brains are wired and/or the environment we grew up it.
     
  8. Lurker

    Lurker Dread Pirate

    You have totally missed the point. The writer of that blog is (or at least claims to be) a diagnosed schizoid who is annoyed at the sort of morons who think being schizoid is a good and desirable thing, they are certainly not criticising actual schizoids. Did you even read it? I found it very thought provoking and relatable.
     
  9. Pensive

    Pensive 'member?

    Well, I didn't mean to offend...
    I posted that quote because it relates to a struggle I am having within myself.
     
  10. gibbygibbers

    gibbygibbers Solitude Junkie

    "You can kiss my little lady ass."- goldintheshadow
     
  11. Forager with a laptop

    Forager with a laptop Having a nice day

    "There is something degraded, deficient, and wretched about the vast mass of humanity. About those who huddle together within a small circle, one dimly lit by a putative and putrefactive “togetherness”. About those who are forever afraid of the isolation, the darkness, the vastness that lies beyond their neediness. But in that beyond others dwell, those who have no such fears and no such needs, those who can in good grace die alone because they are possessed of the capacity and the character to live alone."

    - http://web.archive.org/web/20131019144123/http://shy-in-the-firelight.com/schizoid.htm
     
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  12. Fortunecookie

    Fortunecookie Best member

    '' Fairbairn argued that the tragedy of schizoid children is that . . .they believe it is love, rather than hatred, that is the destructive force within. Love consumes. Hence the schizoid child’s chief mental operation is to repress the normal wish to be loved. ''
     
  13. Jen

    Jen Well-Known Member

    Yup.
     
  14. Jen

    Jen Well-Known Member

    I swing between being completely content with who I am and feeling emptiness/sadness/loss(sorry I dont know the name of the feeling just trying to describe it) about who I am. Anyone else have this ambivalence?
     
  15. Fortunecookie

    Fortunecookie Best member

    Yes.
     
  16. Jen

    Jen Well-Known Member


    Thank you.

    Isnt it ironic: the experience of never experiencing lonliness in the sence of people and relationships, yet experiencing some kind of weird 'lonliness in the self'. A lonliness that denies its definition, a lonliness that could never be eased by hanging out with another... BUT eased just with the knowledge that there is a mind out there that knows what your on about.

    Again... Thank you.
     
  17. Section_Eight

    Section_Eight Well-Known Member

    Most of the time I'm perfectly content with who and whay I am, other times I feel as you do. Though I tend to put such feelings down to minor depressive episodes (due to BP II), as one day I'm fine, the next I'm down then I'm fine again.

    Part of the reason I wouldn't want to change, is that it would be scary to feel emotions and let people within my protective shell. Is this true of you also?
     
  18. Jen

    Jen Well-Known Member

    It is scary, emotions that is, to have them. I lived most of my life feeling very little. But something happened. I got the most profound depression of my life and now Im left either feeling next to nothing or exploding with anger or trying to breathe my way through so much sadness or face aching from the laughter Im still not used to. Emotions suck ass. BUT, for some reason unknown to me having emotions, once you learn how to cope with them, go some way in assisting with having a life worth living. I guess Im lucky, the best of both worst worlds gives me breaks from feeling little to feeling too much. Im not just going crazy from being on constant high emotional alert, and Im not feeling dead from constantly feeling nothing. In saying that, I do prefer feeling little, its safer that way.
    Change is hard. No denying that and certainly no denying that if you do change you will no longer know who you are. You live your whole life in a particular manner, then lightning crashes. I cant say I was happy, but I was relatively content to be me in me not needing anyone. Then DBT came along. Its such a strange battle, very confusing, coming to the horrific and extremely unsettling feeling that you kind of depend on something outside of you. I have never wanted a relationship and made it very clear to the DBT team that I did not want one with the therapists nor did I want to change that part of me. I viewed the therapist as a tool, the only way I could cope with the 'intimacy' of a therapeutic 'relationship'. Now? Now I am begrudgingly admitting that I depend, to an extent, on another human being, not only that, I kind of like and respect the therapist, AND, believe it or not, I often enjoy (?!?!?) the sessions (even when they are a total bitch). This hasnt changed my core self, but at the ripe age of 34, I have learnt that its not so bad. Change is hard, its unsettling, confusing, threatening. For someone like us, letting another human being in and allowing emotion to enter the scene, to try to overcome the intense shame of that compromise of soul is intensly difficult, it is something that goes against our very essence. Im only 8 months in, so I cant say if it is worth it. I dont think it is possible to change your essence, but there is the possibility of change to other aspects of 'you'.

    Change, emotions, and people, are a difficult challenge.
     
  19. Fortunecookie

    Fortunecookie Best member

    puzleWe felt like lost pieces, and they kept us in another puzzle box. Being wrong pieces, we cannot always fit in. It is important to realize that this is not our puzzle. Trying to force the piece to fit is a ridiculous effort, unnecessary, tiring. We should create our own puzzle from what we actually have: just one piece... Make it fit our own puzzle, piece by piece, just as the primitive original cell continued dividing until it created an entirely new organism... Invest in the process. Why try to fit in a place which is not ours? We'll only succeed provided we comply with who we are. Adapted from Max Steiner .
     
  20. Fortunecookie

    Fortunecookie Best member

    fantasies may be called the endorphins of the soul. Source: schizoids.info